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Andreas K

@i_jayas
Sigh, then run your own instance with a black moderation team.

The difference from centralized systems is that nobody forces you to use this specific website.

Run literally your own instance. Then the only thing that can happen to you is that people block you. Shrug.
@Gargron @mikebabcock

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Rich Burroughs :kubernetes:

@yacc143 @i_jayas @Gargron @mikebabcock That’s too late. Black folks are going to the big instances because that’s where a lot of people go, and they are getting alienated. We can’t expect new users to know what instances are the “good” ones.

Michael T Babcock

@richburroughs I have a basic life philosophy of fixing things I can fix, instead of the ones I can't:
* We can do a better job of educating users on sign-up immediately.
* We can try to fix other peoples' moderation skills slowly.
* We can unfortunately never make the system faultless. Even with infinite effort.
* So we must deal instead with mitigation and best efforts.
I could be wrong however. Feel free to explain how.

Rich Burroughs :kubernetes:

@mikebabcock I was replying to the person who said that Black folks should just make their own server. I hope I don’t have to explain to people what a problematic message that is. I don’t know specifically what needs to be done to improve the moderation. I don’t know enough about what’s happening to say.

Rich Burroughs :kubernetes:

@mikebabcock What I can tell you is that Black folks are seeing these misfires and some don’t want to come near the platform. I have a lot of Black friends I follow on Twitter and very few of them have come to Mastadon. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

David Cooper

@yacc143 most of us can’t run our own instance. I’m not sure that suggesting that it’s the job of the oppressed to fix the problems is the best stance here.

@i_jayas @Gargron @mikebabcock

Kat Kime 🚢

@yacc143 @i_jayas @Gargron @mikebabcock

Okay, but I'm pretty confident Eugen's goal isn't to build a de-facto whites-only instance.

The complaints were delivered to Eugen because the complaints are about *this* instance

"Deal with racism or go someplace else" might work for you, but not for Eugen's team

That's why the staff is doing something about it, and that's why his users will continue to deliver feedback

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