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Eugen

There were two notable moderation incidents on mastodon.social and mastodon.online in the past 24 hours that I would like to address. In the first, a post was wrongfully removed due to a report claiming it contained a dogwhistle, and in the second, a person was wrongfully suspended due to a report claiming it's an impersonator. Both were undone and apologies issued.

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Eugen

The moderation team is bigger than ever and so is the amount of reports we have to process. We're dealing with unprecedented growth despite having closed registrations on these servers weeks ago. Some false positives are unavoidable, but we understand these mistakes are upsetting and unacceptable, and we are trying to do better. Luckily all moderator actions can be appealed and reversed.

🌻Kate a eu jusqu'à ici avec 💩

@vesperto @Gargron We are perfectly able to use mute and block. MOST of us know you are doing your best. Others will be blocked or muted and unhelpful

Kye Fox :snoutsverified:

@Gargron At least all this happened after non-destructive mod actions were available.

Brett Edmond Carlock

@Gargron thanks for the transparency around this, Eugen.

Randahl Fink

@Gargron will further registrations on this server be closed forever, or is there a known time frame?

riiku ☂️

@randahl you can always register on another server (preferably smaller, so it's better moderated) and you still can use all the amazing federated features Mastodon can offer, and it'll ease the server load on the mastodon.social instance

Dieu

@randahl @Gargron I do not know, but is there any good reason anyone might want to join these instances in the near future? No intention to badmouth them here, but ATM everything seems speak in favour of smaller instances, as I see it.

JF :verbike:

@Gargron I have yet to see any of the tripe I saw on twitter on a daily basis

charvaka

@Gargron Glad to see you address the issue and even apologize. That's a welcome difference compared to what I am used to from the bird site.

Janet Folland

@Gargron Please pass on my thanks to everyone, this shared space is such a pleasure. Thanks for everything you all do

Leah ⛤

@Gargron Thanks for the clarification. This are really good news. May I suggest a blog article about the state of the moderation of the two instances? I think this would help to clear many things up that are currently in the debate.

Nemo_bis 🌈

@leah @Gargron A commitment to keeping registrations closed would be most helpful too. :)

Truebe

@Gargron are the mods still volunteers of is it paid staff?

Diego

@Gargron I've seen someone say that if their account is suspended they're not able to migrate to another instance. Is that true?

Harry Keller

@Gargron Thank you for all the work you’re doing! Must be hard, suddenly being in this situation under the spotlight, with all the attention and expectations. Hope you also get some rest! 🫰

Romanovich 🇺🇦

@Gargron Thank you very much. I really like this social network. It is really easy and comfortable to create content here. Once again, thank you very much for Mastodon, have a nice day and prosperity.

Burkhard Zimmermann

@Gargron Thank you for your amazing work, huge respect! 👍 👍

Dr. Dan Killam

@Gargron We need to make sure these false positives stop happening with such troubling frequency to underrepresented folks.

bob :fediverse:

@Gargron Thanks for the update - I can see an opportunity for some (hopefully foundation-sponsored) training for all instance admins/mods down the road - the Commons needs standards, and standards take time, effort and money to implement. Good luck with your work.

Il_minga :mastodon: 🏀

@Gargron I agree and I like your effort about these issues

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@Gargron as opposed to twitter where you could easily get suspended and ignored for weeks, sending appeals into the void without knowing if any real person would ever read it

Lazarus

@Gargron nice to see some resistance to weaponising reports to block stuff someone merely disagrees with

Daniel Colquitt

@Gargron thank you for the honesty, transparency, and humility.👏

Izzy Jayasinghe

@Gargron You haven’t reversed the massive dent in the trust and trauma for those on the receiving end however. Apologies are important, but they wash over quickly. Where is the evidence that they will learn, and that similar mistakes won’t be made. “Moderator actions can be appealed & reversed” is hardly a guarantee of safety.

Michael T Babcock

@i_jayas @Gargron This presumes there's some future where humans are infallible and won't make mistakes again. This is not one of the options. All you can usually expect from anyone is "doing your best" and "reversing bad decisions."

Nora

@Gargron Ich wünsche dir viel Geduld im Moment. Mir ist schon aufgefallen, dass 'Dank' dem Debakel beim blauen Vogel auch Klientel angezogen wurde, die auch ihr abstossendes und agressives Verhalten mitbringen 😏.

Gina

@Gargron

Thank you for your honesty. This sort of transparency is not something we would get on Twitter or Facebook. The moderators are human, and thus can make mistakes. My hope we we can all learn to be better, so that these sorts of mistakes, which inevitably hit minorities hardest, don't happen again.

Sirsquid

@Gargron perhaps these kinds of instant suspensions should need another to sign off on them?

Cody

@Gargron I know you have a lot on your plate right now, and if anything this would be way down on the list, but have you considered something like Polis for community driven moderation? It seems to *possibly* have the potential of being a real benefit to society.

compdemocracy.org/Polis/

I should note this is what the bird apps "Community Notes" is based on, but there's no affiliation.

Anton

@Gargron Thank your for being that transparent with the whole topic.

Polymer Witch

@Gargron With the size of the instances now, have you considered doing an annual moderation and privacy report? I think it would be helpful to understand the moderation workload, what type of content is being removed, what the threat landscape looks like, how many state actor data legal requests were complied/denied, filtering in various state jurisdictions, etc.

Scott, cursed librarian

@polymerwitch @Gargron 💯 cosigned on this.

Transparency reports are increasingly the baseline for tech companies operating within a human rights commitment to demonstrate their trustworthiness to users, governments, and civil society organizations and advocates.

Joe Steinbring

@Gargron Thank you for everything that you and your team do.

Erik Knuyt 🇳🇱

@Gargron
Thanks for your work !
I would like to give some money for making this all possible.
I would like to pay it bij Ideal.
Is that possible ?

The Vampire Fish Queen

@Gargron Should we be worried about how the UKs Online Safety Bill and the US Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA) could affect mastodon and moderation on the site if they were to pass?

Sooraj Sathyanarayanan

@Gargron Appreciate the transparency! Thanks for your contribution 😊

Jesse F Ballenger

@Gargron Fair enough. But getting this right - especially for people who routinely face so much exclusion and erasure - is the test of whether this decentralized model can really support democratic discourse for a large, diverse set of communities.

John Kennedy

@Gargron …And this is why so many people want to be on your instance!

Geewhizpat

@Gargron you guys are great…thanks for what you do!

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